Timeline for Grading programming exercises: the quality vs. originality paradox
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Feb 7, 2022 at 21:55 | vote | accept | Erel Segal-Halevi | ||
Jan 17, 2022 at 9:25 | comment | added | Erel Segal-Halevi | @ScottRowe We have a kind of apprenticeship at the 3rd year, when students do individual projects. The course I am talking about is 2nd year, it should give students basic tools for doing projects. | |
Jan 17, 2022 at 0:08 | comment | added | Scott Rowe | Make 30% of the grade be for originality? It is an old issue that the ones getting As are basically just good at regurgitating and gaming the school, and the capable students are annoyed, withdrawn, misunderstood and told they will never amount to anything, like that guy... Uh... Einstein, that's it. How to solve this? Switch to apprenticeship. Ramanujan had an individual tutor who recognized his brilliance, or else he might have spent his life in the village where he was born. | |
Jan 12, 2022 at 10:51 | comment | added | Erel Segal-Halevi | @GuyCoder students get 1 point for the automatic submission, and 16 points for the interview, where they also get personal feedback on their submission. It is important for students to know exactly how their grade is computed - this is why we need a transparent grading scheme. | |
Jan 12, 2022 at 10:35 | comment | added | Erel Segal-Halevi | @VictorEijkhout Until two years ago I, too, encouraged group submissions. Then, due to COVID we had to do oral examinations. I found out that some students, who got 100% homework grade, could not write a single line of code. When I asked "how did you get 100% homework without writing code?" they said "my partner wrote all the code. My job was just to submit the solution to Moodle"... Since then, I switched to individual submission. | |
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Jan 11, 2022 at 23:35 | comment | added | Victor Eijkhout | Is there a problem? You used the term "mediocre code" for the students that turned out to have worked alone. I'm fine with students consulting each other. In fact, I tell them to formalize grouping of up to 3 and submit just once, with all their names on it. I'm sort of assuming that they themselves will deal with the ones not pulling their weight. | |
Jan 11, 2022 at 20:08 | answer | added | Buffy | timeline score: 4 | |
Jan 11, 2022 at 18:55 | answer | added | Ben I.♦ | timeline score: 3 | |
Jan 11, 2022 at 18:26 | comment | added | Rushi | I have a strong sympathy with this question -- I've on occasion disliked myself for the grades I gave | |
Jan 11, 2022 at 18:09 | comment | added | Erel Segal-Halevi | @Buffy I am currently the lecturer in charge. There are two other lecturers that are responsible for teaching, and 5 TAs that are responsible for tutoring and handling the labs. | |
Jan 11, 2022 at 17:38 | comment | added | Buffy | So, are you alone managing this class? | |
Jan 11, 2022 at 17:34 | comment | added | Erel Segal-Halevi | @Buffy students present their homework in "lab" hours. There are 15 lab hours per week, so 20 students per lab. Assuming 5 presentations per hour, each student gets to present once in 4 weeks, which is 3 times per term (so they can present 3 out of 5 assignments). Indeed, it is very challenging. I asked to have 13 students per lab, but it was not approved due to budget considerations. | |
Jan 11, 2022 at 16:30 | comment | added | Buffy | Give a bit more background. What is the student/staff ratio for such a large course? How many TAs/graders etc. are involved? I think that other questions you've ask suggest you have a near impossible task. | |
Jan 11, 2022 at 16:15 | history | asked | Erel Segal-Halevi | CC BY-SA 4.0 |